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 2nd post, PP2K, pauses in slide show

Trying again, since there were no responses to my first post, none that I
saw anyway.  :)

I am finishing up a slide presentation in PP2K.  173 slides, most of them
set to 6 second random transitions.  While doing the final timing to run
with a wav file we have on a cd, the presentation will have one or two
random black pauses. The cd is not skipping or anything when this happens.
These are not blank slides, as the screen just goes black for about 4-6
seconds.

Of course this messes up my timings, which I'm trying to get pinned down.

PII 266 with 64 meg, 4 gig hard drive partitioned into 2-2 gig partitions.
350 mb free on C, 1.4 gig free on D, the swap file is on C.

Any ideas would be appreciated.

--
Melissa

I Samuel 12:24

--
Melissa

I Samuel 12:24



Wed, 18 Jun 1902 08:00:00 GMT  
 2nd post, PP2K, pauses in slide show
Melissa,
Did you see Austin's post on Timings? Some of it is applicable to
transitions too. Some transitions are faster than others, and it could be
(just guessing here) that the pause is connected to the transition. Is it
the same place on each run through? I find that "random" transitions most
always mean the slowest and/or most annoying ones. What happens if you
choose the same transition for all?

Kathy


Quote:
> Trying again, since there were no responses to my first post, none that I
> saw anyway.  :)

> I am finishing up a slide presentation in PP2K.  173 slides, most of them
> set to 6 second random transitions.  While doing the final timing to run
> with a wav file we have on a cd, the presentation will have one or two
> random black pauses. The cd is not skipping or anything when this happens.
> These are not blank slides, as the screen just goes black for about 4-6
> seconds.

> Of course this messes up my timings, which I'm trying to get pinned down.

> PII 266 with 64 meg, 4 gig hard drive partitioned into 2-2 gig partitions.
> 350 mb free on C, 1.4 gig free on D, the swap file is on C.

> Any ideas would be appreciated.

> --
> Melissa

> I Samuel 12:24

> --
> Melissa

> I Samuel 12:24



Wed, 18 Jun 1902 08:00:00 GMT  
 2nd post, PP2K, pauses in slide show
Melissa,

It may just be a product/limitation of linear processing.  Lets assume for a
minute that it takes your machine four seconds to start media player, spin
up the CD, read the heading and locate the sound track, read the CD and fill
the buffer, and finally start playing the music.

PowerPoint issues the command (call media player) and is now waiting for it
to happen.  In the mean time you have slide transitions with very short time
(6 seconds) intervals.  Possibly shorter than the machine/PPT can deal with.
Some of the slide transitions take a couple seconds to perform, plus a
little time to cue them and display them, plus the 4 seconds for the media
player.  Opps, were over the six second limit.  Something has to give.

We have all began to think of multitasking as the computer being able to do
several things at once.  The truth is, it does not, it does lots of things,
one at a time so quickly it appears to be doing them all at once.  Exceed
the limits of the computer and you get "pauses" in the application(s).  I'm
betting that if your transition timing was set to something like 10 or 12
seconds you wouldn't see this problem.  It all depends upon how fast the
machine is.

Austin Myers
PowerPoint MVP Team


Quote:
> Trying again, since there were no responses to my first post, none that I
> saw anyway.  :)

> I am finishing up a slide presentation in PP2K.  173 slides, most of them
> set to 6 second random transitions.  While doing the final timing to run
> with a wav file we have on a cd, the presentation will have one or two
> random black pauses. The cd is not skipping or anything when this happens.
> These are not blank slides, as the screen just goes black for about 4-6
> seconds.

> Of course this messes up my timings, which I'm trying to get pinned down.

> PII 266 with 64 meg, 4 gig hard drive partitioned into 2-2 gig partitions.
> 350 mb free on C, 1.4 gig free on D, the swap file is on C.

> Any ideas would be appreciated.

> --
> Melissa

> I Samuel 12:24

> --
> Melissa

> I Samuel 12:24



Wed, 18 Jun 1902 08:00:00 GMT  
 2nd post, PP2K, pauses in slide show
The weird thing is, I have gotten the entire show to run without this
happening.  It seems to do the best when everything in the background is
shut off, and when all Power management settings are off as well.

I don't have to run the show for the "Big Day" (anniversary party), until
May 27th, so I have until then to pin down the cause.

I have learned so much about PP doing this show...before now I had never
used it at all.  It's been a blast...and the show itself turned out really
cool and sentimental. It's a walk through my in-laws 50 year marriage...

--
Melissa

I Samuel 12:24


Quote:
> Melissa,

> It may just be a product/limitation of linear processing.  Lets assume for
a
> minute that it takes your machine four seconds to start media player, spin
> up the CD, read the heading and locate the sound track, read the CD and
fill
> the buffer, and finally start playing the music.

> PowerPoint issues the command (call media player) and is now waiting for
it
> to happen.  In the mean time you have slide transitions with very short
time
> (6 seconds) intervals.  Possibly shorter than the machine/PPT can deal
with.
> Some of the slide transitions take a couple seconds to perform, plus a
> little time to cue them and display them, plus the 4 seconds for the media
> player.  Opps, were over the six second limit.  Something has to give.

> We have all began to think of multitasking as the computer being able to
do
> several things at once.  The truth is, it does not, it does lots of
things,
> one at a time so quickly it appears to be doing them all at once.  Exceed
> the limits of the computer and you get "pauses" in the application(s).
I'm
> betting that if your transition timing was set to something like 10 or 12
> seconds you wouldn't see this problem.  It all depends upon how fast the
> machine is.

> Austin Myers
> PowerPoint MVP Team



> > Trying again, since there were no responses to my first post, none that
I
> > saw anyway.  :)

> > I am finishing up a slide presentation in PP2K.  173 slides, most of
them
> > set to 6 second random transitions.  While doing the final timing to run
> > with a wav file we have on a cd, the presentation will have one or two
> > random black pauses. The cd is not skipping or anything when this
happens.
> > These are not blank slides, as the screen just goes black for about 4-6
> > seconds.

> > Of course this messes up my timings, which I'm trying to get pinned
down.

> > PII 266 with 64 meg, 4 gig hard drive partitioned into 2-2 gig
partitions.
> > 350 mb free on C, 1.4 gig free on D, the swap file is on C.

> > Any ideas would be appreciated.

> > --
> > Melissa

> > I Samuel 12:24

> > --
> > Melissa

> > I Samuel 12:24



Wed, 18 Jun 1902 08:00:00 GMT  
 2nd post, PP2K, pauses in slide show

Melissa,

Actually not weird at all.  If your pushing the machine to it's limits, and
you unload the amount of work the CPU must do, the remaining work will be
done faster.

Quote:
> The weird thing is, I have gotten the entire show to run without this
> happening.  It seems to do the best when everything in the background is
> shut off, and when all Power management settings are off as well.

Yup, even power management eats CPU cycles.

Quote:
> I don't have to run the show for the "Big Day" (anniversary party), until
> May 27th, so I have until then to pin down the cause.

I think you've pinned it down, now you need to decide what to do about it.
Standing back and throwing money at the machine always helps. <g>

Quote:
> I have learned so much about PP doing this show...before now I had never
> used it at all.  It's been a blast...and the show itself turned out really
> cool and sentimental. It's a walk through my in-laws 50 year marriage...

What a great idea!  I sure hope it all goes as planned.

Austin Myers
PowerPoint MVP Team

PS.  You prove my therory on the best way to learn PPT.  Jump in and start
paddling.



Wed, 18 Jun 1902 08:00:00 GMT  
 2nd post, PP2K, pauses in slide show
Flying by the seat of my pants is one of my favorite hobbies.  Once I
figured out that computers don't burst into flames if you do the wrong thing
there was no stopping me.  :)

--
Melissa

I Samuel 12:24


Quote:

> Melissa,

> Actually not weird at all.  If your pushing the machine to it's limits,
and
> you unload the amount of work the CPU must do, the remaining work will be
> done faster.

> > The weird thing is, I have gotten the entire show to run without this
> > happening.  It seems to do the best when everything in the background is
> > shut off, and when all Power management settings are off as well.

> Yup, even power management eats CPU cycles.

> > I don't have to run the show for the "Big Day" (anniversary party),
until
> > May 27th, so I have until then to pin down the cause.

> I think you've pinned it down, now you need to decide what to do about it.
> Standing back and throwing money at the machine always helps. <g>

> > I have learned so much about PP doing this show...before now I had never
> > used it at all.  It's been a blast...and the show itself turned out
really
> > cool and sentimental. It's a walk through my in-laws 50 year marriage...

> What a great idea!  I sure hope it all goes as planned.

> Austin Myers
> PowerPoint MVP Team

> PS.  You prove my therory on the best way to learn PPT.  Jump in and start
> paddling.



Wed, 18 Jun 1902 08:00:00 GMT  
 2nd post, PP2K, pauses in slide show
Quote:
> Flying by the seat of my pants is one of my favorite hobbies.  Once I
> figured out that computers don't burst into flames if you do the wrong

thing

Well darn.  That takes ALL the fun out of it.



Wed, 18 Jun 1902 08:00:00 GMT  
 2nd post, PP2K, pauses in slide show
I've seen them smoke pretty good, and you know
what they say about smoke... :-) But that had
something to do with connectors IIRC.

--

John O

-------



Quote:
> Flying by the seat of my pants is one of my

favorite hobbies.  Once I
Quote:
> figured out that computers don't burst into

flames if you do the wrong thing
Quote:
> there was no stopping me.  :)

> --
> Melissa

> I Samuel 12:24


message


Quote:

> > Melissa,

> > Actually not weird at all.  If your pushing

the machine to it's limits,
Quote:
> and
> > you unload the amount of work the CPU must do,

the remaining work will be
Quote:
> > done faster.

> > > The weird thing is, I have gotten the entire

show to run without this
Quote:
> > > happening.  It seems to do the best when

everything in the background is
Quote:
> > > shut off, and when all Power management

settings are off as well.
Quote:

> > Yup, even power management eats CPU cycles.

> > > I don't have to run the show for the "Big

Day" (anniversary party),
Quote:
> until
> > > May 27th, so I have until then to pin down
the cause.

> > I think you've pinned it down, now you need to

decide what to do about it.
Quote:
> > Standing back and throwing money at the

machine always helps. <g>
Quote:

> > > I have learned so much about PP doing this

show...before now I had never
Quote:
> > > used it at all.  It's been a blast...and the

show itself turned out
Quote:
> really
> > > cool and sentimental. It's a walk through my

in-laws 50 year marriage...
Quote:

> > What a great idea!  I sure hope it all goes as
planned.

> > Austin Myers
> > PowerPoint MVP Team

> > PS.  You prove my therory on the best way to

learn PPT.  Jump in and start
Quote:
> > paddling.



Wed, 18 Jun 1902 08:00:00 GMT  
 2nd post, PP2K, pauses in slide show
"magic" smoke?? all 'puters have it
Quote:

> I've seen them smoke pretty good, and you know
> what they say about smoke... :-) But that had
> something to do with connectors IIRC.

> --

> John O

> -------



> > Flying by the seat of my pants is one of my
> favorite hobbies.  Once I
> > figured out that computers don't burst into
> flames if you do the wrong thing
> > there was no stopping me.  :)

> > --
> > Melissa

> > I Samuel 12:24


> message


> > > Melissa,

> > > Actually not weird at all.  If your pushing
> the machine to it's limits,
> > and
> > > you unload the amount of work the CPU must do,
> the remaining work will be
> > > done faster.

> > > > The weird thing is, I have gotten the entire
> show to run without this
> > > > happening.  It seems to do the best when
> everything in the background is
> > > > shut off, and when all Power management
> settings are off as well.

> > > Yup, even power management eats CPU cycles.

> > > > I don't have to run the show for the "Big
> Day" (anniversary party),
> > until
> > > > May 27th, so I have until then to pin down
> the cause.

> > > I think you've pinned it down, now you need to
> decide what to do about it.
> > > Standing back and throwing money at the
> machine always helps. <g>

> > > > I have learned so much about PP doing this
> show...before now I had never
> > > > used it at all.  It's been a blast...and the
> show itself turned out
> > really
> > > > cool and sentimental. It's a walk through my
> in-laws 50 year marriage...

> > > What a great idea!  I sure hope it all goes as
> planned.

> > > Austin Myers
> > > PowerPoint MVP Team

> > > PS.  You prove my therory on the best way to
> learn PPT.  Jump in and start
> > > paddling.



Wed, 18 Jun 1902 08:00:00 GMT  
 2nd post, PP2K, pauses in slide show
No, unfortunately this was real smoke and resulted
in some odd-shaped insulation on the wires that
connect the motherboard to the front panel. Odd
thing, it still worked fine after we fixed the
connections.

--

John O

-------


in message

Quote:
> "magic" smoke?? all 'puters have it


> > I've seen them smoke pretty good, and you know
> > what they say about smoke... :-) But that had
> > something to do with connectors IIRC.

> > --

> > John O

> > -------


in

> > > Flying by the seat of my pants is one of my
> > favorite hobbies.  Once I
> > > figured out that computers don't burst into
> > flames if you do the wrong thing
> > > there was no stopping me.  :)

> > > --
> > > Melissa



Wed, 18 Jun 1902 08:00:00 GMT  
 2nd post, PP2K, pauses in slide show
some people get all the fun... <g>
Quote:

> No, unfortunately this was real smoke and resulted
> in some odd-shaped insulation on the wires that
> connect the motherboard to the front panel. Odd
> thing, it still worked fine after we fixed the
> connections.

> --

> John O

> -------


> in message

> > "magic" smoke?? all 'puters have it


> > > I've seen them smoke pretty good, and you know
> > > what they say about smoke... :-) But that had
> > > something to do with connectors IIRC.

> > > --

> > > John O

> > > -------


> in

> > > > Flying by the seat of my pants is one of my
> > > favorite hobbies.  Once I
> > > > figured out that computers don't burst into
> > > flames if you do the wrong thing
> > > > there was no stopping me.  :)

> > > > --
> > > > Melissa



Wed, 18 Jun 1902 08:00:00 GMT  
 
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