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Gil Trotma #1 / 7
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As a long-time legal word processing operator I am very happy with the substantive new features in Word XP and the approaching time when legal numbering in Word is no longer a chore (MS is getting very very close). My least favorite new feature is however the Task Panes, in particular the style task pane. Modifying Styles is one of those things done in practically every document. I am dismayed, appalled, shocked and upset that I no longer know how to get to the Modify style dialog by keystroke. Prior to the Task Pane it was a simple matter of "Alt, O, S, M" and voil, modify away. Now-- "Alt, O, S" brings up the style pane and M does nothing but force me to curse as I reach way across the right side of my keyboard in slow painful agony to reach for the mouse and click on the rigth side of my screen a few hundred times a day. Is the keystroke truly gone, if so PUT IT BACK NOW. If it is not gone but only misplaced, please tell me where it is QUICKLY?
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Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:46:29 GMT |
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Steve Atkinso #2 / 7
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I don't use XP, but why not record a macro and assign it to a keystroke?
As a long-time legal word processing operator I am very happy with the substantive new features in Word XP and the approaching time when legal numbering in Word is no longer a chore (MS is getting very very close). My least favorite new feature is however the Task Panes, in particular the style task pane. Modifying Styles is one of those things done in practically every document. I am dismayed, appalled, shocked and upset that I no longer know how to get to the Modify style dialog by keystroke. Prior to the Task Pane it was a simple matter of "Alt, O, S, M" and voil, modify away. Now-- "Alt, O, S" brings up the style pane and M does nothing but force me to curse as I reach way across the right side of my keyboard in slow painful agony to reach for the mouse and click on the rigth side of my screen a few hundred times a day. Is the keystroke truly gone, if so PUT IT BACK NOW. If it is not gone but only misplaced, please tell me where it is QUICKLY?
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Wed, 23 Mar 2005 01:09:59 GMT |
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Gil #3 / 7
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Thank you very much for your comment Steve, but I need Word to function this way out of the box as I am a consultant and need certain features in Word to function consitently at each work site. Many firms customize many things about Word which often does nothing but cost the firm training dollars and and time to train consultants (as well as their own staff) in their own unique customizations. There are, however, many things you should be able to count on being the same and these Menu keystrokes are very important and MS should think more carefully b4 doing away with them without providing alternative keystrokes. I am a word processor and my productivity declines when my hands leave the keyboard to reach for a mouse. My hands should not have to leave the keyboard until I am finished working. Reaching for the mouse is something I only want to do when I have to draw a pretty picture or something graphical but keying in and modifying text and formatting I must be able to do with keys and not with a workaround. As well, even if it is just a personal preference of mine, I want keystrokeability without having to convolute the situation even more with a macro that I would have to copy to templates at every site I work at. Quote: >-----Original Message----- >I don't use XP, but why not record a macro and assign it to a keystroke?
>As a long-time legal word processing operator I am very >happy with the substantive new features in Word XP and the >approaching time when legal numbering in Word is no longer >a chore (MS is getting very very close). >My least favorite new feature is however the Task Panes, >in particular the style task pane. Modifying Styles is >one of those things done in practically every document. I >am dismayed, appalled, shocked and upset that I no longer >know how to get to the Modify style dialog by keystroke. >Prior to the Task Pane it was a simple matter of "Alt, O, >S, M" and voil, modify away. Now-- "Alt, O, S" brings up >the style pane and M does nothing but force me to curse as >I reach way across the right side of my keyboard in slow >painful agony to reach for the mouse and click on the >rigth side of my screen a few hundred times a day. Is the >keystroke truly gone, if so PUT IT BACK NOW. If it is not >gone but only misplaced, please tell me where it is >QUICKLY? >.
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Wed, 23 Mar 2005 04:02:35 GMT |
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Suzanne S. Barnhil #4 / 7
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You might want to look at http://home.zebra.net/~sbarnhill/CustomizingWord2002.htm. The article suggests a toolbar button, but you could equally well put the item on the menu. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://www.mvps.org/word
As a long-time legal word processing operator I am very happy with the substantive new features in Word XP and the approaching time when legal numbering in Word is no longer a chore (MS is getting very very close). My least favorite new feature is however the Task Panes, in particular the style task pane. Modifying Styles is one of those things done in practically every document. I am dismayed, appalled, shocked and upset that I no longer know how to get to the Modify style dialog by keystroke. Prior to the Task Pane it was a simple matter of "Alt, O, S, M" and voil, modify away. Now-- "Alt, O, S" brings up the style pane and M does nothing but force me to curse as I reach way across the right side of my keyboard in slow painful agony to reach for the mouse and click on the rigth side of my screen a few hundred times a day. Is the keystroke truly gone, if so PUT IT BACK NOW. If it is not gone but only misplaced, please tell me where it is QUICKLY?
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Wed, 23 Mar 2005 04:41:35 GMT |
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Terry Farrel #5 / 7
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Gil I've worked out how to do it but - {*filter*}y hell - it is torturous! Alt+O,S makes the Style Pane, style in use the Focus. Alt+down arrow key, M drops down the active Style and M opens the Modify dialog. To summarise those simple Keystrokes: Alt+O,S Alt+down arrow key, M. So simple, isn't it! Praise be the mouse! -- Terry Farrell - MSMVP Visit the MVP Word FAQ site at http://www.*-*-*.com/
Thank you very much for your comment Steve, but I need Word to function this way out of the box as I am a consultant and need certain features in Word to function consitently at each work site. Many firms customize many things about Word which often does nothing but cost the firm training dollars and and time to train consultants (as well as their own staff) in their own unique customizations. There are, however, many things you should be able to count on being the same and these Menu keystrokes are very important and MS should think more carefully b4 doing away with them without providing alternative keystrokes. I am a word processor and my productivity declines when my hands leave the keyboard to reach for a mouse. My hands should not have to leave the keyboard until I am finished working. Reaching for the mouse is something I only want to do when I have to draw a pretty picture or something graphical but keying in and modifying text and formatting I must be able to do with keys and not with a workaround. As well, even if it is just a personal preference of mine, I want keystrokeability without having to convolute the situation even more with a macro that I would have to copy to templates at every site I work at. Quote: >-----Original Message----- >I don't use XP, but why not record a macro and assign it to a keystroke?
>As a long-time legal word processing operator I am very >happy with the substantive new features in Word XP and the >approaching time when legal numbering in Word is no longer >a chore (MS is getting very very close). >My least favorite new feature is however the Task Panes, >in particular the style task pane. Modifying Styles is >one of those things done in practically every document. I >am dismayed, appalled, shocked and upset that I no longer >know how to get to the Modify style dialog by keystroke. >Prior to the Task Pane it was a simple matter of "Alt, O, >S, M" and voil, modify away. Now-- "Alt, O, S" brings up >the style pane and M does nothing but force me to curse as >I reach way across the right side of my keyboard in slow >painful agony to reach for the mouse and click on the >rigth side of my screen a few hundred times a day. Is the >keystroke truly gone, if so PUT IT BACK NOW. If it is not >gone but only misplaced, please tell me where it is >QUICKLY? >.
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Wed, 23 Mar 2005 05:44:29 GMT |
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Shauna Kell #6 / 7
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Hi Gil I'm with you on this one! My fingers learned Alt-O S Alt-M Alt-O etc so long ago that they can't forget! This is what I did, so that Format | Styles now behaves much as it has since (at least) Word 95. To get rid of the Styles and Formatting pane, you can customize the Format menu. Do Tools | Customize | Commands. Under Categories, click Format. On the right you have a list of all the formatting commands, many of which will be familiar because they're on the standard toolbars or menus. (Editorial comment: pity they aren't in any discernable order.) On this list, you'll see an entry called "Styles and Formatting ..." with two blue As as its icon. That's the one on your Format menu. Further down, you'll see another entry called "Styles ...". Its icon is a black roman A and a blue italic A. Drag the one called "Styles..." to your Format menu. I put mine just above the existing "Styles and Formatting..." menu item. Then, because I much prefer using the keyboard to the mouse, I changed the shortcut keys. The customize dialog box is still open, right? Click on the Format menu, and right-click on the "Styles and Formatting..." item and remove the & from in front of the S in the name. Now, right-click on your new "Styles..." menu item, and insert an & in front of the S in its name. Close the Customize dialog box. You now have the new fandangled thing on your menu if you want it, but your old Format | Styles should look very familiar. This change must be saved to normal.dot to work next time you use Word, so if you're prompted to save it, say yes. Hope this helps. Shauna http://www.*-*-*.com/ Quote:
> Gil > I've worked out how to do it but - {*filter*}y hell - it is torturous! > Alt+O,S makes the Style Pane, style in use the Focus. Alt+down arrow key, M > drops down the active Style and M opens the Modify dialog. To summarise > those simple Keystrokes: Alt+O,S Alt+down arrow key, M. So simple, isn't it! > Praise be the mouse! > -- > Terry Farrell - MSMVP > Visit the MVP Word FAQ site at http://www.*-*-*.com/
> Thank you very much for your comment Steve, but I need > Word to function this way out of the box as I am a > consultant and need certain features in Word to function > consitently at each work site. Many firms customize many > things about Word which often does nothing but cost the > firm training dollars and and time to train consultants > (as well as their own staff) in their own unique > customizations. There are, however, many things you > should be able to count on being the same and these Menu > keystrokes are very important and MS should think more > carefully b4 doing away with them without providing > alternative keystrokes. I am a word processor and my > productivity declines when my hands leave the keyboard to > reach for a mouse. My hands should not have to leave the > keyboard until I am finished working. Reaching for the > mouse is something I only want to do when I have to draw a > pretty picture or something graphical but keying in and > modifying text and formatting I must be able to do with > keys and not with a workaround. As well, even if it is > just a personal preference of mine, I want > keystrokeability without having to convolute the situation > even more with a macro that I would have to copy to > templates at every site I work at. > >-----Original Message----- > >I don't use XP, but why not record a macro and assign it > to a keystroke?
> >As a long-time legal word processing operator I am very > >happy with the substantive new features in Word XP and the > >approaching time when legal numbering in Word is no longer > >a chore (MS is getting very very close). > >My least favorite new feature is however the Task Panes, > >in particular the style task pane. Modifying Styles is > >one of those things done in practically every document. I > >am dismayed, appalled, shocked and upset that I no longer > >know how to get to the Modify style dialog by keystroke. > >Prior to the Task Pane it was a simple matter of "Alt, O, > >S, M" and voil, modify away. Now-- "Alt, O, S" brings up > >the style pane and M does nothing but force me to curse as > >I reach way across the right side of my keyboard in slow > >painful agony to reach for the mouse and click on the > >rigth side of my screen a few hundred times a day. Is the > >keystroke truly gone, if so PUT IT BACK NOW. If it is not > >gone but only misplaced, please tell me where it is > >QUICKLY? > >.
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Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:03:12 GMT |
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RMF #7 / 7
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Hi all,
[..] Quote: > I'm with you on this one! My fingers learned Alt-O S Alt-M Alt-O etc > so long ago that they can't forget!
[..] that's why I'm always very sceptical about learning them darn Keyboard-Shortcuts :-)! My first real-World run-in with Word was back in the late 80s; our group's secretary came fresh from a Word-training course (one week I think) and did some marvellous things with hacking round... but along comes a new Version or (more horribly) a new Program and >BANG< many folks have to get another week (or two: first to unlearn all the old stuff) of training. Bottom line: if you do a lot of repetitive work, sure, look them shortcuts up. But in training, I'd better teach folks how the application or even this type of application (is supposed to) work(s), and WHERE they can find more information if they're stuck someplace wouldn't that be better invested? Greetinx .bob ..and, to Gil: M$ sometimes HAS to get rid of old stuff or we'd drown even more in legacies...!! -- /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign \ / X Against HTML / \ in e-mail & news
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